You’ve said “While the Song Remains the Same” was inspired by walking through Manchester and seeing how the old pubs turned into restaurants and health clubs. There’s been a change in the way people are being asked to socialize, with the decline of the English pub –
Oh, for sure.
Could that have anything to do with the decline of bands, and people just retreating into their bedrooms to make dance music?
Well, of course. In your bedroom now, you can have a recording studio and a record-pressing plant. You can virtually have one on your fucking phone, d’you know what I mean? I read a quote from somebody saying, “Back in the day, when you were given a CD, it was because a group of people thought it was that good that they put this person in a studio to record it, whereas now you can get given a CD by a guy who just recorded it at home, and only he thinks it’s fucking good.” I think the decline of the English pub has got a lot to do with the smoking ban – you shouldn’t ever be able to buy food in a pub. What’s all that about? Pubs are now gastropubs; they’ve turned into restaurants, and I don’t like ‘em. The decline of bands playing in pubs is fucking sad, but I guess this is the birth of the death of rock ‘n’ roll.
Do you think rock ‘n’ roll still stands a chance of coming back?
There’s this fucking term now that I hate: “modern rock.” Bleurgh! What does that mean? That just conjures up facial hair and fucking shit shoes. “Modern rock”: what a load of fucking nonsense. I think that modern rock will survive because it will have its little place in the digital world. But trust me, when all the greats die: Ray Davies, Paul McCartney, Neil Young, Iggy Pop — it’s fucking gone.